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Restless Sanctuary Ep. 010: Kneeling and/or leaping?

James Cathcart April 23, 2026 0 0
Restless Sanctuary Ep. 010: Kneeling and/or leaping?

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Restless Sanctuary Episode 10: Kneeling and/or leaping?

What happens when we kneel before the cross? What happens when we take the leap with Jesus?

In this episode James and Albert are joined by long time contributor to Sanctuary First retired minister and incredible writer and thinker Peter Neilson! They continue to reflect on what it means to live ‘After the Cross’ as we respond to Jesus’ universe-changing act of love. They discuss disillusionment, hope, culture clash, brokenness, wholeness, the intimacy of kneeling, and the power of sitting across from someone at Communion. Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Karl Barth, Jürgen Moltmann and John Zizioulas all get namechecks!

Listen every fortnight to our new podcast about faith, restlessness and the search for meaning! James Cathcart and Albert Bogle from Sanctuary First share what it’s like to be restless Christians, wrestling with the Bible and spirituality as they try and live it out today.

Right now our world is very restless — politically, economically, culturally, technologically and environmentally. We are living through an age of disruption and upheaval. Many of us are longing for a sense of sanctuary, for belonging, and direction to help us face new and unprecedented challenges.

At the root of Christianity James and Albert uncover a restlessness in God’s heart that mirrors our own. A deep longing and restless love that searches out for each one of us. We glimpse God in the faces of one another in need and in God we glimpse our own human yearning for wholeness and love.

James and Albert reckon Jesus offers sanctuary and respite for our restless souls, but that it is often a restless sanctuary, a temporary makeshift shelter in a world that we are called in turn to go out and love. The ship in their logo, designed by Jack Steel, is itself a restless sanctuary on the open water — not a shelter from the storm but a shelter through the storm.

Join them every fortnight for fascinating discussions about being restless Christians in a restless world!

The series is a collaboration between James Cathcart and Albert Bogle and features the track ‘Symphony of Lies’ by The Bogle Band.

Find the podcast here on Sanctuary First, in our Sanctuary First App, and on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and most other podcasting platforms!